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Stephanie Moulton's avatar

"We’ve tried to fix things in our own efforts through moralism, politics, excessive rules, etc. for the last 60+ years… Do we even know why Jesus came? Maybe that’s the real problem.”

I do think we’ve for sure created a culture war with non-Christians we shouldn’t have. I became a Christian when I was sixteen, and while I don’t regret it for one minute, I do wish that the people who fostered that relationship with Jesus made it less about winning the culture war and more about loving God and our neighbor.

At least here in the US, we’ve made laws in an effort to win the culture war against non-Christians. We either don’t know or simply ignore that the Bible is OUR playbook, not the world’s. We try to legally mandate people who don’t believe in it or Jesus to live by the Bible instead of living by it ourselves and loving people. So no, I DON’T think we know why Jesus came, since so many of us see or have seen Jesus as a way to have power over the people we’re supposed to be loving.

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Sharon Hillam's avatar

>>There is almost an agreement within evangelical culture that we don’t criticize our own leaders/teachers. It’s probably because we don’t want to ruin God’s reputation or something like that (which is bogus),

I'm not so sure it's because we don't want to ruin God's reputation as much as we've been taught that we aren't to "touch God's anointed." Here's where the model of church we follow is a huge problem. Leadership of churches in New Testament times was far different than what we have today. It wasn't centered on one man. And their gatherings looked far different than ours, too.

I mentioned Frank Viola earlier. He recently released his book, The Untold Story of the New Testament Church, revised and expanded. In addition, he put together 10 YouTube videos (about 10 minutes each) that tell the entire story of the New Testament with sketchbook-type visuals. I can't recommend this book, Frank's podcasts (Christ is All and The Insurgence), and these videos enough. I believe that until we, the Church, recognize that God isn't going to change His mind about what He intended — His eternal purposes — we will forever be floundering as we try to follow Jesus in the middle of a truly messed-up model of church, which, sadly, is all that many of us have ever known. {sigh}

But all is not lost! Far from it! This is where you and I and many others speaking out come in. Do you follow @MaryDeMuth here? If not, check her out. You definitely need to. She recently spoke at the Restoration 2025 conference and posted a link to it.

This is all I have time for today. I'm grateful for what you're sharing. It's important. Don't ever stop!

Here's the link to the 1st Video Podcast in the series: https://youtu.be/uhP40BaFjdE?si=9QesshVr9k_MCUYd

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